We received the following comment on the blog, ‘Jesus, the Beginning and the End.’ ‘John 1:1 does not say Jesus was before the creation. The Word of God (God His speaking or God His uttering Voice) was with God. Jesus who came into existence only a few 2000 years ago was (like you and many others) already mentioned in the Book of life, but was also promised in the Garden of Eden, to the first human beings.
Jesus is the beginning of the new creation, but also the provider of salvation for all and as such also the new beginning for all who went before him. For all people he is also the end, because at his return he shall be judging the living and the dead, allowing them or not letting them to enter the Kingdom of God.’
We want to look in more depth at the statements in the comment. In the mean time, some preliminary observations:
The statement deserves high marks for generalities. That is not what we find with the Word of God.
- Statements should be supported by the relevant Scripture references.
- The Bible almost functions like a scientific book. So statements must be backed up by references.
- Since the Bible reveals the Kingdom of God, its contents fits in with the concept of the Kingdom.
- Also, one has to be sure that whoever writes about the Bible, is filled with the Holy Spirit. So if someone says Jesus became the Son of God and God became His Father, then one asks, are those the words of the Holy Spirit? That takes us back to Scripture because the Holy Spirit never teaches outside of Scripture.
Regardless, we want to investigate the matter thoroughly, since there are many conflicting statements about Jesus. In following blogs we will continue the discussion.
6 days / 66 books / 6000 years 
It is very clear who Jesus is according to the Scriptures. He is the son of man and son of God, born in Bethlehem and died in Jerusalem. He is the dent one and authorised from God and not God Himself who would have come down to fake His birth, temptation, bullying, death and resurrection, beca
“And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. “And behold, you will conceive in your womb, and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus. “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever; and His kingdom will have no end.” And Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I am a virgin?” And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God.” (Lu 1:30-35 NAS)
“”And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for it is He who will save His people from their sins.”” (Mt 1:21 NAS)
“Now it came about when all the people were baptized, that Jesus also was baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “Thou art My beloved Son, in Thee I am well-pleased.” And when He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being supposedly the son of Joseph, the son of Eli,” (Lu 3:21-23 NAS)
“and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”” (Mt 3:17 NAS)
“”For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.” (Joh 3:16 NAS)
“These things Jesus spoke; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Thy Son, that the Son may glorify Thee,” (Joh 17:1 NAS)
“that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you. “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. “After a little while the world will behold Me no more; but you will behold Me; because I live, you shall live also. “In that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. “He who has My commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves Me; and he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him, and will disclose Myself to him.” Judas (not Iscariot) *said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us, and not to the world?” Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him. “He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me. “These things I have spoken to you, while abiding with you. “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. “Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives, do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful. “You heard that I said to you, ’I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I. “And now I have told you before it comes to pass, that when it comes to pass, you may believe. “I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me; but that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go from here.” (Joh 14:17-31 NAS)
“But He answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working.” For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. Jesus therefore answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. “For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and greater works than these will He show Him, that you may marvel. “For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, in order that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. “Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear shall live. “For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. “Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment. “I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. “If I alone bear witness of Myself, My testimony is not true. “There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the testimony which He bears of Me is true. “You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. “But the witness which I receive is not from man, but I say these things that you may be saved. “He was the lamp that was burning and was shining and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light. “But the witness which I have is greater than that of John; for the works which the Father has given Me to accomplish, the very works that I do, bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me.” (Joh 5:17-36 NAS)
“But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.” (1Co 11:3 NAS)
“And when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that God may be all in all.” (1Co 15:28 NAS)
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(text was sent away to early and should continue: “because that are all things God does not have. God is also an all-knowing Spirit Being whilst Jesus had to learn everything and at the end of his life even did not know when he would be coming back, when the end times would be or who would be seated next to him.
We now do know Jesus was taken out of the dead (after three days in hell – what would God do there?) and taken into heaven to sit next to his heavenly Father, to be a high priest for God and a mediator between God and man.
“But when the fulness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,” (Ga 4:4 NAS)
“And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” (Mt 28:18 NAS)
“and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.” (Joh 5:27 NAS)
“For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,” (1Ti 2:5 NAS)
“and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.” (Heb 12:24 NAS)
“Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest of our confession.” (Heb 3:1 NAS)
“where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.” (Heb 6:20 NAS)
Clearly all those Bible text giving clarity that Jesus is another being than God. We also should accept the Words of the Most High Elohim Who declared that we should have no other gods besides Him Who is One and that we should recognise His only begotten beloved son who died for us (whilst God can not die because He is an eternal Spirit Being no man can see – though Jesus was seen by many).
“But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” (Ro 5:8 NAS)
“He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?” (Ro 8:32 NAS)
“By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.” (1Jo 4:9 NAS)
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Thank you for your comment. We appreciate it. Please see the beginning of our understanding of Jesus’ deity in the blog, ‘Who does God say Jesus is?’
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