Conflict, Church and LGBT community

It is not our intention to get involved in the debate between the Church and the LGBT community.  We leave that to the theologians and apologists.  What we do want to do is to highlight the design of God.

#  The Bible begins and ends with the man/woman relationship.

Genesis 2, a picture of Eden, is a miniature or blueprint of what God intends to do on the new heavens and earth.  God, the bridegroom (Adam) and the bride (Eve), are in perfect harmony in a beautiful setting.  In Revelation 19:7-8 the wedding of the Bridegroom (Jesus) and the Bride (the Church, the elect) is celebrated in the new Eden. 1 God is also described as the Husband of Israel, His ‘wife.’ 2   Note the ‘male/female’ pattern.

#  Love between male/female is very important.

The book, Song of Songs, describes the specific love between man and woman.  This description is applicable to the love between God and Israel, Jesus and the Church and man and woman.  A particular emphasis is, ‘Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave.’ 3  Love is strong and jealous, as is God and Jesus’ jealousy over Israel and the Church, man and woman.

#  The male/female pattern is God’s design.

Adam was incomplete without a mate and God rectified it.  Male and female were different from their creation.  God made Adam from earth, but Eve from Adam’s rib.  She was flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone (literally).  God is also the source of Israel and Jesus of the church.  The male and female are physically different.  Yet man and woman are equal in God’s sight 4 and joint heirs of the Kingdom. 5

#  Man and woman had to be fruitful.

God gave Adam and Eve the command to be fruitful. 6  Why was it important to God that they had to fill the earth?  It has to do with the eventual filling of His coming Kingdom on the new earth.  He needs many citizens there.  We deduce that the man/woman; Jesus/Church; and God/Israel relationships have to do with fruitfulness in various aspects.


Whichever way we look at it, in God’s Kingdom the male/female, bridegroom/bride relationship features strongly.  In each case the bride differs from the bridegroom.  What the LGBT community wants to do is to change it.  They might succeed to force the Church to change its beliefs, but whether they will succeed in changing God’s Word is doubtful.  Taking our cue from 1 Peter 1:25 (‘…the Word stands forever’) we are inclined to view God’s Word as unchangeable.


  1. Revelation 21-22
  2. Isaiah 54:5-7; Ezekiel 16:8
  3. Song of Songs 8:6
  4. Galatians 3:28
  5. 1 Peter 3:7
  6. Genesis 1:28; 9:7

Author: Gerard and Alida

As you can see in the photo, there are two of us. We live and work together 24/7, studying and enjoying our grandchildren. Our passion is to know and understand what will happen after death. Is there a way to provide for and invest in that?

5 thoughts on “Conflict, Church and LGBT community”

  1. In the Bible, God is described in a multitude of allegories. Sometimes God is “male”, other times “female”. Often, the Divine Presence is gender-neutral. The Hebrew word for God is “elohim”, which is plural (plural masculine, but that’s not really relevant). God (and the Bible) are obviously more diverse than some people think.

    The Bible also contains a famous example of a homosexual couple – King David and Jonathan. David laments the fall of Jonathan with these words: “I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; You have been very pleasant to me. Your love to me was more wonderful Than the love of women”, which leave little doubt to the nature of their relationship.

    When people of the same sex are engaged in a relationship, whether they marry each other or not, they are still two different people. So God’s Kingdom is still there. Besides, if LGBT’s are such an abomination, why did God make them so?

    In short, God’s word is open to multiple interpretations. I think that people who claim to know exactly what God’s word means are sinning the sin of pride, as they place themselves in God’s place and pass judgement on others.


    1. That’s an easy one – just check

      The friendly folks from the Women’s Ordination Conference have a nice collection of references here:

      It starts at the very creation, in Genesis 1:27:
      “Humankind was created as God’s reflection: in the divine image God created them; female and male, God made them.”

      Seek, and ye shall find


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