Ex-Christian.net and Bible Bashing

One of the blogs on Ex-Christian.net had the following comment, ‘Your children now have a large family and Korah and companymany of them disagree with you and refuse to live by your rules. You get angry and dig a series of large pits and throw many of these children into the pits and bury them alive.’  It then asks, ‘Does this make sense to you? It makes sense to Christians!’ 1

The example is probably the incident of Korah, Dathan and Abiram when they challenged God in Numbers 16. The Biblical facts are as follows: the high priesthood was entrusted to Aaron. Korah was part of the Levitical family who had to support Aaron and his sons in the priestly duties.2  Korah, supported by Dathan, Abiram (and 250 others) complained about Aaron’s position as the high priest, ’You have gone too far! The whole community is holy, every one of them, and the Lord is with them. Why do you set yourselves above the Lord’s assembly?’ 3  It was God who prescribed the duties of the different families. So their rebellion was really directed against God.

When Moses summoned Dathan and Abiram to hear from God about the issue, they said, ‘We will not come. Isn’t it enough that you have brought us up out of a land flowing with milk and honey to kill us in the desert? And now you also want to lord it over us? Moreover, you haven’t brought us into a land flowing with milk and honey or given us an inheritance of fields and vineyards. Will you gouge out the eyes of these men [make slaves of them]? No, we will not come.’ 4

It was not Moses who rescued the Israelites from Egyptian slavery, but God. Yet the fear and disobedience of the Israelites (which included Korah and company) to conquer the Canaanites with the help of God, prevented them from taking in the promised land of milk and honey. Therefore they implied that it was God who did not keep His promise. Their open rebellion against God caused them to be buried in a supernatural earthquake.

Neal Stone claims that his version makes sense to Christians. We disagree: his account does not make sense at all, but the real facts from Scripture do make sense. His report demonstrates the lengths people will go to, to ‘justify’ their apostasy.

The question is, can someone who doesn’t know the context of this history, recognise the mangled version presented by this ex Christian? It is not likely. Yet that is the kind of stuff that persuades people to reject God. In the process they trade in their hope of eternal life for total annihilation like Korah and his followers. The latter missed the promised land, which typifies eternal life with God.

References

  1. Neal Stone, Does this makes sense to you? It makes sense to Christians! Ex-Christians.net, 7/12/2009.
  2. Numbers 3:9-10
  3. Numbers 16:3b
  4. Numbers 16:12-14

Author: Gerard and Alida

As you can see in the photo, there are two of us. We live and work together 24/7, studying and enjoying our grandchildren. Our passion is to know and understand what will happen after death. Is there a way to provide for and invest in that?

6 thoughts on “Ex-Christian.net and Bible Bashing”

  1. One statement is enough for a mature and evolved spirit to understand the immortal importance of a sentence, of a written line, due to its indestructible invaluable content that teaches how the spirit should act to develop the inner God, or to turn into Spirit and Truth, or to realise in it the teachings of the Bible – YOU ARE GODS.
    There are people who devour books, searching for religions, sects and banners, listening to the incarnate and the discarnate, but they do not change inwardly and do not really blossom… They are like mediocrity that goes around the PERFECTION, without ever reaching it…
    The Exemplary Word warned these people, by saying: “The Kingdom of God is inside each one, it does not come with external signs.”
    Therefore, those who do not know how to LOOK FOR THEMSELVES, and have not FOUND THEMSELVES yet, will have to search high and low, hovering unhappily, in the kingdom of emptiness and painful doubts.
    An old initiatic saying teaches: “The good disciple awaits doing good.”
    The Exemplary Word also taught: “Upon your patience you shall build your souls.”
    These abstracts say to the immature, to those empty spirits: “Learn how to run to your inner self, because it is there that God has placed His Divine Virtues, which, when blossomed, will make you a TOTAL ONE, GOD IN GOD, BECAUSE NO ONE WILL BE CHILD OF GOD ETERNALLY.”
    However, let us remember these wise words: “One word to those who understand it is worth a whole speech to those who do not understand it.”

    All the best. With love, Neil.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. We want to add a bit, just to make sure that people are not confused about the position of believers and God.

      Jesus did say that the Kingdom of God is within us (Luke 17:21). While there are different interpretations, the one we think is logical is that the Holy Spirit is within men’s hearts. He represents Jesus and will teach us all about Jesus and the Kingdom ( John 16:13-15).

      The big confusion comes in when people think they are God. To understand the difference, we have to look at what the position of believers will be when everything has been renewed. The believers are ‘the called, chosen and faithful followers [of Jesus]’ (Revelation 17:14). We are servants of God.

      This is also what John heard. When John wanted to worship an angel, the angel told him, ‘Do not do it! I am a fellow-servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God’ (Revelation 22:9).

      The distinction is clear. We worship God, we are not worshipped.

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  2. Hi Gerard and Alida.
    When the so-called Initiatic Wisdom, or Science of the Mysteries, or Science of the Oracles instructs men to know themselves, so that then they may get to know the Universe and the Gods, it instructs nothing but to acknowledge that everything emanates from the ONE ORIGIN, that IN HIM everything moves and everything achieves the purpose..
    Thousands of years later, when Jesus reaffirmed the ‘YOU ARE GODS’, He said nothing but the same truth. However, with the corruption of the Sublime Doctrine of the Path, these and other FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS have been forgotten, buried under the debris of all sorts of simulations and machinations, seriously harmful to people’s spiritual progress.
    To say that all religions are good is the same as to purposefully insult the TRUTH. No DIVINE OR FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH depends on human opinion in order to be. The TRUTH is good and the mistakes of religion fabricators will have to burst against it.
    Morals, Love, Revelation, Wisdom and Virtue are the positive factors that will make the Inner Christ of the spirit blossom. Pocket, Stomach, Sex, Pride and Selfishness are the factors that, used negatively, shall lead the spirit to weeping and grinding of teeth.
    A new cyclical-evolutionary time is coming to Humanity; but the Law of God and the Divine Model Christ will see those who did wrong, grieving their guilt, because they will not go through any changes.
    All the best. With love, Neil.

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      1. Hi there. It’s necessary that you have patience to read, learn and know new points of view to understand what is THE TRUTH THAT SETS FREE – As it is self-sufficient, it makes self-competent people.
        Biblical references for my statements:

        The Great Bibles, once studied, make the Fundamental Initiatic Truths be recognized; Truths that came from remote times, hundreds of millennia ago, and throw out this repulsive thing that is the religious, sectarian fanaticism and the fanaticism for men, books, mediums, etc. They teach that the TRUTH is good, not men or religions.
        A – The Popol Vuh, or Mother of the Bibles, the Atlantis’, mentioned in some very ancient documents;
        B – Ramayana, of Rama, reporting the Great Epopee;
        C – The Zend Avesta of Zoroaster, the Bible of the Persians;
        D – Orphic Wisdom, the Initiatic Fundamentals of Greece;
        E – The Emerald Tablet, of Hermes, the Bible of the Egyptians;
        F – The Book of the Dead, also of the Egyptians;
        G – The Book of the Principles by Veda Vyasa;
        H – The Bhagavad Gita of Krishna, THE SUPREME BOOK OF ANCIENT TIMES;
        I – The Old Testament, starting with Moses and ending in Malachi, reporting profound initiatic teachings, later burnt and lost, then restored in an incomplete and contradictory way. It contains the Law of God or Divine Morals, it promises the arrival of the Christ, Example of Conduct, and the Outpouring of Spirit on the flesh;
        J – The Gospel of Buddha, summarizing the Doctrine of the Thirty Five Buddhas;
        K – The Code of Manu;
        L – The Golden Verses of Pythagoras, or what was left from the burning of the libraries;
        M – The Talmud, the real testament of the Betrayal of Israeli rabbis, contradicting Moses and the Prophets, the Moral Law and the Healthy Mediumistic Cultivation left by Moses, as from Numbers, chapter 11;
        N – The New Testament, proving the prophecies of the Old Testament, that is, the arrival of the Messiah, Example of Conduct, the Outpouring of Revelation or Spirit on the flesh, etc. It is advisable to read it with honesty, because against Jesus and His Immortal Task, all contradictory concepts and all the betrayals would rise, as Prophet Simeon stated, and they are in the world, disguised as true…;
        O – The Koran, the Bible of the Arabs;
        P – The Everlasting Gospel, promised in the Apocalypse, 14, 6.

        in my blog you can download some free books to start your quest for truth.

        What God wants is: “KNOW YOURSELF AND REACH FULFILMENT”.

        All the best With love, Neil.

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      2. Neil, thanks for the information. Our criterium for a reliable book of instruction concerning God is that it must be historical, with events and peoples connected to a country. In the case of the Bible we refer to Israel. None of the other books you mentioned have it. If we are wrong, please let us know.

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